tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post8161616518135859947..comments2024-03-18T08:51:18.391-07:00Comments on Oldenhammer in Toronto: Orctober Fest: Evolution of the Orcmatthewjksullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08126108200355039621noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-58112753701537687252014-10-25T09:57:12.426-07:002014-10-25T09:57:12.426-07:00If anyone is looking for even more detail on this ...If anyone is looking for even more detail on this topic (Venger's Minions! King Ploobis! Alf!) I highly recommend Zhu's follow-up post:<br /><a rel="nofollow">http://realmofzhu.blogspot.ca/2014/10/orctober-fest-2014.html</a> matthewjksullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126108200355039621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-87749715934463732812014-10-06T02:13:00.925-07:002014-10-06T02:13:00.925-07:00Nice article and I enjoyed the walk down memory la...Nice article and I enjoyed the walk down memory lane.Zorconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08223002363738913215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-3468281614629456862014-10-03T05:09:17.420-07:002014-10-03T05:09:17.420-07:00Great summary Matthew, a history of Orcs but from ...Great summary Matthew, a history of Orcs but from a late 80's citadel being the end point perspective. I can get on board with that even if you don't like the Marauder boys who for my money have the look in spades.<br /><br />I'd say there is one important orc missing from your post. Highly influential on the look us 30-40 year olds consider the archetypal orc. Have a think about it and then have a look over on my blog to see if you agree.Ernyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106035249657749275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-86027047685683337142014-10-02T07:03:19.008-07:002014-10-02T07:03:19.008-07:00Thanks for all the insightful comments! I've c...Thanks for all the insightful comments! I've corrected my mistake about the Black Mountain Boyz - thanks for the pointer, Peter.<br /><br />And Zhu - I think you're quite right that the illustrators of the '70's were highly influential. As well as Frazetta, I really like the Bros. Hildebrandt's illustrations, like this <a href="http://www.spiderwebart.com/enlarge.asp?image=102884b.jpg" rel="nofollow">sketch</a> of some of Tolkien's orcs - notice the snouts!<br /><br />As far as I can tell, the Brothers were coming up with porcine orcs around the same time as Gygax (mid-to-late 1970's) - although Zhu has already <a href="http://realmofzhu.blogspot.ca/2010/11/orcs-in-disneyland.html" rel="nofollow">observed</a> that Gygax (and maybe the brothers?) may have been influenced by the "goons" of Disney's Sleeping Beauty (1959).<br />matthewjksullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126108200355039621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-28178943380909224882014-10-02T06:17:35.001-07:002014-10-02T06:17:35.001-07:00Very interesting post. Your orc commander figure i...Very interesting post. Your orc commander figure is great, even if it does make me feel bad about mine ;). I like the Marauder orcs myself. I thought the counterpoint of a regimented look was nice.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15428727065347379281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-53852496256239823622014-10-02T05:56:28.939-07:002014-10-02T05:56:28.939-07:00Thanks for the link! The miniature you show from m...Thanks for the link! The miniature you show from me is actually a C16 Orc - the black mountain boys can be seen at http://greblord-littlemen.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/citadel-25mm-rr5-harboth-and-black.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03080863352061774017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-68404351908335639842014-10-02T04:53:32.905-07:002014-10-02T04:53:32.905-07:00Great post. It's worth, in my opinion, looking...Great post. It's worth, in my opinion, looking at <a href="http://thetwist03.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/frank-frazetta-lord-of-the-rings-orcs.jpg" rel="nofollow">Frank Frazetta's 1975 drawings of orcs</a> and comparing them to the early 80s Citadel designs (<a href="http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Orcs_-_FTO_Fantasy_Tribe_%28solid_base%29" rel="nofollow">FTO series</a>) especially around the face and bare arms / legs. Whether or not there is a direct influence, or just a similar notion of what an orc might look like, who knows? IIRC the "Red Orcs" started out life as "Half Orcs", so are, perhaps a little less 'orcy' because of that. Zhu Bajieehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13945636483237344750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-65845538956757490132014-10-02T01:17:58.014-07:002014-10-02T01:17:58.014-07:00If you like Harboth's you might enjoy my post ...If you like Harboth's you might enjoy my post here, where I've got a complete regiment painted. Or well, the musician isn't with them at the time. =/<br /><br />http://ministuff.godzilla.se/?p=943<br /><br />Too bad I didn't know of your penchant for these guys or I would've mentioned it in your thread on the forums. =)phreedhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13400910734490932729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2874877056919928739.post-44901129991301672952014-10-02T00:46:16.266-07:002014-10-02T00:46:16.266-07:00Excellent sum up of orcishness. I'm no special...Excellent sum up of orcishness. I'm no specialist but it all makes sense. I think the evolution of orcs is also part of their fun. Races like elves and dwarves have not undergone such big changes, only their outfit changed like ours do with every fashion. Orcs realy have evolved in their essence too. I really like those kev adams orcs/orks because they achieve that balance of mischief/brutality/fun/mistery that has never been equaled. I've thought about some comparisons between Rogue trader orks and today's society I will post with my painted figures.<br /><br />Great article.Asslessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09475252828835332056noreply@blogger.com